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pookabeansjd
08-01-2007, 08:14 AM
Marley my honorary corgi (english mastiff) is sick. Yesterday when i was feeding him, after he had been outside, I noticed he had blood spattered on his back legs. So i initially thought that he was urinating blood. We took him to a vet immediately. So at the vet, we realized that he is peeing fine, but that his "pink thing" was extremely swollen and practically purple at the tip.

We showed this to the vet, who gave it a once over. (we think that it happened because marley likes to play with some jrt puppies, and one of them might have bit him.) The vet gave us a salve to put on it 2-3 times a day, and we have, as best you can put medicine on that part of him.

But today he is bleeding more. When I brought him down this morning, our hallway looked as if someone had been murdered. :SHOCKED: (I think part of the problem is the pressure that his other leg puts on the area when he is laying down) I am concerned, and if it continues we are taking him back today.

Does anyone know of a good way to put medicine there, and keep it on? We can keep him from licking, that is no prob, it's just that the medicine comes off when it goes back in. We have put medicine inside him, without much trouble, it's just tough to keep the medicine from coming out.

thanks.

sutulu
08-01-2007, 08:35 AM
I have no advice to give you but did want to chime in with moral support.

I hope Marley is on the mend soon! One day you may laugh about this!

Susan

pookabeansjd
08-01-2007, 08:37 AM
! One day you may laugh about this!

Susan

thanks... my b/f cringes every time he sees it. i feel bad for them both

mtoy
08-01-2007, 09:24 AM
Ooooooow, Ouchy ouchy.... good luck treating it. I don't have any advice at all (I'm on my 1st male pup myself) but will be paying attention "just in case". Keep us updated and I hope he heals soon.

BTW - what is the male (pink) part called? Anyone know?

manymuddypaws
08-01-2007, 09:46 AM
poor Marley, I don't think there is anything other than what you've got- I have never had any experience with this- A friend of mines great dane had a similar problem though- not sure what she did though, I will ask her...

-amanda

ZdogZ
08-01-2007, 09:47 AM
BTW - what is the male (pink) part called? Anyone know?

I have no idea. I always call it the "pimento" because it reminds me of a pimento in an olive. +EMBARRASED+

ZdogZ
08-01-2007, 09:52 AM
I hope that Marley is better soon. I've never heard of this problem.

CorgiMum
08-01-2007, 10:17 AM
Marley my honorary corgi (english mastiff)
But today he is bleeding more. When I brought him down this morning, our hallway looked as if someone had been murdered. :SHOCKED: (I think part of the problem is the pressure that his other leg puts on the area when he is laying down) I am concerned, and if it continues we are taking him back today.


If it were Dylan I would be on the phone asap to the Vet. With it still bleeding, hopefully the Vet can say why, maybe with another examination. I'd be concerned with infection, and as the salve doesn't stay on for obvious reasons maybe he can give him antibiotics to be taken orally.

Healing vibes for your boy, and please keep us posted.

(I just call it Dylan's Doodle)

pookabeansjd
08-01-2007, 10:18 AM
i went upstairs to bring marley outside and there was blood dripping from his penis (that's what the pink thing is called by the vet), so we took him immediately. The vet (a different one from yesterday) did a very thorough exam and said that it was not a bite, but instead soemthing like protraction. He apparently had an erection and something was damaged in the process. So marley is staying at least the rest of the day while the vet is going to first try to put whatever is broken back where it needs to be, and stitch it. If that doesnt work, he said he is going to take part of the tip off. (he jokingly said he was gonna circumsize him..lol)

So hopefully that will fix it. the vet said it is a rare thing to happen. (sorry i'm being so obtuse, but i was 1 of 3 people holding marley down while the vet checked him out, and it was hard to get everything.)

CorgiMum
08-01-2007, 10:21 AM
Poor (((Marley))).

Hopefully the Vet will be able to fix him up today and he will mend quickly.

And a hug for you, you must be so worried about him.

pookabeansjd
08-01-2007, 10:47 AM
Thank you for the vibes everyone. I'll update either this afternoon or tomorrow when i have more information on how he's doing.

Ellie, while i'm posting, is doing great, between the pool and short walks she has soo much more energy than before (she is still a couch potato, but she is definately more corgi-like than ever before).

--jackie, ellie, and marley

mtoy
08-01-2007, 10:58 AM
I've heard they can be injured during an erection - OUCH! Poor guy.

Glad to know he's going to be fixed, er, put back together? Also glad to know the correct term!

ZdogZ
08-01-2007, 11:44 AM
Poor Marley! I hope they make him better soon, however they do it!

MrsGrace
08-01-2007, 12:14 PM
My dog Huey had one of them erector things once, mounted a finicky labrador named LuLu who decided she'd had enough. I've never seem so much blood. What happened is when Lulu (the hussy) got fed up, she RAN off, taking him with her... it ripped his scrotum AROUND his... erector set. (Huey was fixed of course, and this is the ONLY time he ever did that... again.)

Anyway, it took a LONG time to heal, and since it was a ripped scrotum, Huey couldn't retract it back in. For long long weeks. It hung out.

And being in 8th grade and wanting to be a Vet at the time I think I embarrassed our poor old man vet with all my questions. But worse yet, was seeing him in the grocery store and yelling to him.... (my mother said it was the one time she really wanted to sink in to the floor) HEY DR. SO & SO!!!! MY DOGS PE--- IS STILL STICKING OUT!!!

:LAUGH: +EMBARRASED+ :BIGLAUGH:

Here's hoping Marley will heal quickly. And that you don't have young children who are technically proper to embarrass you!

Fluffypants
08-01-2007, 01:03 PM
OUCH!!!! POOR MARLEY!!!! :EEK:

I hope he feels better soon. Your poor BF must be cringing every time he looks at it!!! I don't even have one (I promise), and I'm cringing!!!

bunnybutts
08-02-2007, 03:28 AM
OUCH!!!! POOR MARLEY!!!! :EEK:

I hope he feels better soon. Your poor BF must be cringing every time he looks at it!!! I don't even have one (I promise), and I'm cringing!!!

:TWITCHY: :EEK: :LAUGH:

sorry Marley is having trouble - hope he and BF are better soon!

dcole
08-02-2007, 10:07 AM
And being in 8th grade and wanting to be a Vet at the time I think I embarrassed our poor old man vet with all my questions. But worse yet, was seeing him in the grocery store and yelling to him.... (my mother said it was the one time she really wanted to sink in to the floor) HEY DR. SO & SO!!!! MY DOGS PE--- IS STILL STICKING OUT!!!


What a handful you were as a child! :LAUGH: :LAUGH:

Poor Marley! Hope he feels better very soon! +WUBCLUB+

pookabeansjd
08-02-2007, 10:43 AM
ok... so here is the full update on Marley.

yesterday am we took him to the vet, who did a minor surgery by putting sugar (really) on his penis and put it in the right spot. We brought him home in the pm, and he dripped a little blood while he was drinking some water. The vet said that if he bled more last night or this morning that we should bring him back in to check it out.

So, last night, he bled all over his crate. and this morning he bled through 2 towels before i got him outside to pee.

We took him back to the vet, who looked at it and said that he had popped out again, and that the ligaments might be torn. The surgery for that is removing the tip (!!). This vet was not sure about doing the operation himself as he did not want to leave any scarring that would make it hard for marley to pee. and while he was telling us this, marley began to bleed on the floor again. So the vet saw him bleeding and said that we needed to take him to get surgery done now. So marely is now at an emergency vet clinic in farmingdale getting laser surgery.

the vet in farmingdale said that his urethrea had prolapsed, which is apparently rare but is caused by straining to pee (like when a male pees just because he smells where another one went). So he is gonna take a laser and remove part of the urethrea to stop this problem and hopefully that is it. Marley will stay there tonight and then we can get him tomorrow.

thank you all for the vibes, it means a lot.

jackie, ellie, and marley

CorgiMum
08-02-2007, 10:48 AM
Sending lots of vibes that Marley's surgery today solves his problem.

Poor fellow. (((((Marley)))))

MrsGrace
08-02-2007, 11:42 AM
Sending good healing vibes and easy recovery prayers your way!

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Marley}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

LaRositaMonita
08-02-2007, 12:29 PM
Good vibes going out to Marley!

On days like these, I wonder how this site would be different if we had more 2-legged males here...

Fluffypants
08-02-2007, 01:07 PM
Poor Marley! I hope this surgery fixes the problem and he feels better soon. +WUBCLUB+

MVons
08-02-2007, 02:12 PM
On days like these, I wonder how this site would be different if we had more 2-legged males here...They would be cringing too much to be able to post.

I'd freak at the sight of so much blood. Glad you Jackie were able to just act and take Marley to the Vet fast.

How fantastic the emergency vet sounds being able to do laser surgery and finding the real problem. What an ordeal! You must be exhausted too. While he is at the Vet, you are home cleaning up and worrying. Marley is probably glad to keep his tip.

But how does one prevent this, how do you know a dog is straining and then stop it in time? Hope the Vet gives you follow up surgery instructions that help Marley heal fast.

Glad to hear Ellie is more energetic and hopefully she will help you not dwell and worry about Marley tonight, which is so hard.

ZdogZ
08-02-2007, 04:39 PM
Sending lots of healing vibes for Marley.

taflar
08-02-2007, 04:46 PM
But how does one prevent this, how do you know a dog is straining and then stop it in time? Hope the Vet gives you follow up surgery instructions that help Marley heal fast.

Straining is when they have difficulty peeing. Not having a steady stream, only dribbles and not a stream, blood in the urine are all signs of a problem.

Peggy

pookabeansjd
08-02-2007, 09:28 PM
Straining is when they have difficulty peeing. Not having a steady stream, only dribbles and not a stream, blood in the urine are all signs of a problem.

Peggy


What i thought was blood in his urine is what started this whole thing off. The vet also said that this can happen just when they have an erection.

Marley was intact until this afternoon (he had only 1 descended testicle, and we were hoping that the other could be moved down or would still descend) The vet told us that it was in his abdomen, and that getting neutered would be the best action to prevent this from happening again. So both the laser surgery and the neutering were done today.

If i get tips tomorrow on any way to prevent things like this i'll post. But according to 2 of the vets we saw, this is a very rare thing to happen.

CorgiMum
08-02-2007, 09:49 PM
Sending lots of healing vibes for Marley.

corgiland
08-02-2007, 11:56 PM
So Sorry to hear what Marley has been going through.....sending lots of healing vibes his way........

"Corgiland"
Beverly

ZdogZ
08-03-2007, 10:36 AM
Poor Marley! Hope he's feeling better really soon.

CorgiMum
08-03-2007, 11:29 AM
How is Marley doing today?

pookabeansjd
08-03-2007, 02:45 PM
Marley is doing well today, according to the vet. We will be able to bring him home tonight. yay. He was neutered and his urethrea was trimmed, so hopefully there should be no more bleeding. yay!

I'll give the full rundown tomorrow on what's going on.

CorgiMum
08-03-2007, 02:49 PM
Great news that he will be home with you again tonight!!

Vibes that the operation is the end to Marley troubles.:SMILE:

ZdogZ
08-03-2007, 05:54 PM
That's great news.

taflar
08-03-2007, 06:05 PM
Marley was intact until this afternoon (he had only 1 descended testicle, and we were hoping that the other could be moved down or would still descend) The vet told us that it was in his abdomen, and that getting neutered would be the best action to prevent this from happening again. So both the laser surgery and the neutering were done today.

If a testicle is going to descend it will do it by the time a puppy is ready to go to his new home. 9 or 10 weeks of age at the latest. If it isn't down by then chances are it's not ever going to come down.

If it was in the abdomen it was on a short cord and no chance it would ever descend.

So everyone, a word of caution, if your male puppies do not have both testicles descended in the scrotum when you take them home do not expect them to come down. It's a very rare case that happens that way.

And just FYI, retained testicles are becoming more and more common in corgis, espcially Pems. It is usually genetic and carried through the dam.

Peggy

pookabeansjd
08-06-2007, 08:34 AM
Updates are due: it's been a busy weekend!

we got marley home late friday night. He looked awful and was freaked out at the vet. He got some serious medicines there: he came home with 2 pain patches on his ears, 1250mg of antibiotics 3x, and a pain killer 2x. (he is 128lbs, so this is dosages of a woman!) The vet told us to expect bleeding for the next 3-5 days and to call if it does not stop or gets heavy.

Saturday am: marley started to bleed when we got him up. it was nearly as much as before surgery. But through the day the bleeding decreased. His appetite began to return and he wanted to play. We took him on a short walk (to keep him from getting cabin fever being stuck on a leash all the time and having to lay on a tarp). This we think was a little too much for him as he cried for a bit during the night.

Sunday: he bled all over my room (on a tarp luckily) It's rough because it comes out in squirts. i'm sorry for being a little graphic. He bled more on sunday, but we have no rationale for it.

This morning was better, there was less blood then any other morning since this all began. So hopefully we will begin to see improvement.


When we got marley at 12 weeks neither testicle had descended, but as he is a giant breed, he is slower to grow. His first testicle did not descend until he was about 5-6mo. He will not reach his full size until he is 2yrs. When we first got him (34lbs) he was gaining a pound a day, now it has slowed (thank goodness). The vet had suggested initially that he might be able to move the other one down, but unfortunately it was in his abdomen. So he was neutered, had the testicle in his abdomen taken out, and had the prolapsed part of his urethrea taken off.

thank you all for the vibes. Marley is definately on the way to recovery.


jackie ellie and marley

pookabeansjd
08-06-2007, 08:39 AM
sorry for the double post, my compy is acting funny today

Fluffypants
08-06-2007, 08:50 AM
Poor Marley - what an ordeal! I hope he stops bleeding and feels better soon!!

CorgiMum
08-06-2007, 08:52 AM
If a testicle is going to descend it will do it by the time a puppy is ready to go to his new home. 9 or 10 weeks of age at the latest. If it isn't down by then chances are it's not ever going to come down.

So everyone, a word of caution, if your male puppies do not have both testicles descended in the scrotum when you take them home do not expect them to come down. It's a very rare case that happens that way.

And just FYI, retained testicles are becoming more and more common in corgis, espcially Pems. It is usually genetic and carried through the dam.

That's a very enlightening and important fact, thank you Peggy.

corgiland
08-06-2007, 04:00 PM
Thanks for the update on Marley......he has been on my mind and sure hope that this bleeding stops completely and he gets back to normal...........continued good vibes coming your way!

"Corgiland"
Beverly

MVons
08-06-2007, 04:59 PM
Hope Marley continues to improve throughout today. Glad he rebounded from the surgery once he was home.

Milosmom
08-06-2007, 08:04 PM
Hope Marley's boy parts are healing and getting better every day, poor thing. What a stressful adventure this has been for you! Hope everyday gets better and better....sending healing vibes!

pookabeansjd
08-07-2007, 07:21 AM
Marley is definately doing better. he seems to be bleeding less, and he is most assuredly getting his energy back. Does anyone know if painkillers or antibiotics will affect appetite? he is eating, just less (about half as much) than he was pre-surgery.

here is a pic of him sleeping yesterday. You can see some of his shaved spots. (and we've slowly been able to clean all the dried stuff off of him)

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb120/pookabeansjd/sleeping.jpg



jackie, ellie and marley

LaRositaMonita
08-07-2007, 08:28 AM
Marley is definately doing better. he seems to be bleeding less, and he is most assuredly getting his energy back. Does anyone know if painkillers or antibiotics will affect appetite? he is eating, just less (about half as much) than he was pre-surgery.


I make no claims about dog antibiotics, but I NEVER feel like eating when I'm taking them... I'm somewhat prone to strep throat (working with kids doesn't help - knock on wood it's been over a year since I've had it!), and any antibiotic I've been given for it makes me a little nauseous. It's a vicious cycle - I have to take the antibiotics, which make me feel nauseous, so I don't eat anything, which causes me to feel even MORE nauseous...

..so it's a possibility. Glad to hear that Marley is doing a little better!

CorgiMum
08-07-2007, 08:53 AM
Glad to hear that Marley is mending well.:SMILE:

dcole
08-07-2007, 03:06 PM
Yay Marley! :BIGGRIN"

taflar
08-07-2007, 04:42 PM
Does anyone know if painkillers or antibiotics will affect appetite? he is eating, just less (about half as much) than he was pre-surgery.

Yes, it's possible for them to do that.

Peggy

MVons
08-08-2007, 11:54 AM
Marley is so gorgeous. He is laying around more so he doesn't "need" more food. I know for people pain medication can affect the appetite. It can be a vicious circle - my stepdad - won't eat because of pain, won't eat because of medication!

Curious, does the Vet just prescribe a set routine for pain medication because some dogs don't indicate they are in pain?