Help! Trax is not his normal self tonight

[Artos]

Advice needed:
Trax my 13 year old corgi boy seemed lethargic today. He had his supper at about 10pm but wasnt too keen on the food. Consumed about 1/3 of the stuff.

Tried to get him to go outside to wee before retiring to sleep. He didnt want to go. I put his choke chain on him (a sign of walkies-which he would be excited about) but he didnt want to respond. I pulled him out and he did walk very slowly to the car porch. At one point, I might have pulled him a bit faster/harder than he was willing /able to go. He just laid down and refused to move. It was then that I noticed that his back legs were weak and he couldnt stand/didnt want to stand. I carried him back into the house and upstairs.

Let him rest for a while on his bed, gave him some warm water with his dehydrated Addiction raw food (a tea spoon full). He ate with gusto...but remained reluctant to move. Carried him to the bathroom but he didnt want to stand up nor wee. Scratched his chest at different points and his back legs (both) could thump....Stood him up (held his chest from below) but he would sit down soon after I let go of his chest. Carried him back to his bed.
While adjusting him to a comfortable position on his bed, he growled at me (normal - when he doesnt like any particular touch or movement).Might be a good sign because earlier, he was not even bothered when I moved his body around- most unusual behaviour for him. He even chomped my arm when I moved him in one particular direction (ouch!)..a good sign that he's less lethargic. Now he is sleeping and snoring away.

Am taking him to the vet tomorrow at 1030am (just phoned them for appointment).
Those of you with experience with old corgis- what do you think it is?
Slipped disc? Pulled muscle? His improved appetite, his chomping and growling and his legs involuntarily thumping when he was scratched on the chest -are these good signs?

Do pray. Thanks.

[CorgiMum]

Poor Trax!

I wouldn't ask him, or encourage him to move until the Vet has examined him. Try not to worry to much, and there is no point in second guessing what is wrong with him. When I do that, I'm usually wrong.

Sending him lots of restful vibes until he sees the Vet. It's about 2.39am for you there right?

[mtoy]

Hope everything is ok with Trax - sending virtual hugs!

[sutulu]

Poor Trax and I bet your are scared to death.

Lets hope that it is something minor, try not to worry (I know that will be impossible), and keep an eye on him until your appointment tomorrow.

I sure hope it is nothing serious.

Susan

[manymuddypaws]

I hope Trax's vet apt. goes well, poor guy. We're thinking of him!

[Artos]

Thanks. It is 2.50am. I am sitting next to him and doing some work on the computer while keeping an eye on him. He wanted some water- and I gave him some. He is sitting up. He just got up! Walked two or three steps and sat down at my foot. Wondered if he is trying to go to the toilet. Will watch.

[MrsGrace]

Lots of healthy vibes and prayers sent your way...

[Penutsma]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that everything will turn out okay! Sending corgi vibes from Delilah.....

[Artos]

Its 3.43am. He wanted to get up about 40mins ago. Got up and walked two steps, sat down. Not sure if he wanted to go to the loo...so I carried him there. He didnt do anything. Just sat on a down position and stayed there for about 10 mins. I gave him some more Addiction dehydrated brushtail stuff (another tablespoonful) in warm water. He was enthusiastic about eating the whole lot up. Since he wasnt about to do anything in the bathroom, I carried him back to his bed. He is now snoring again... . Noticed his breathing seemed a bit wierd. Seemed a bit faster than usual.
Need to go to sleep now. Thanks folks.

[CorgiMum]

Hope you both get some restful sleep. Good luck at the Vet's, hope that it is something simple to fix. And I'll be watching to hear how Trax is late tonight my time.

[Jespah]

It`s hard not to worry and when we do we over analyse every little thing. The vet is your best indicator - so we will keep good thoughts for him and we know you`ll up date us a soon as possible.^

+WUBCLUB+

Deb

[ZdogZ]

I will definitely keep you and Trax in my prayers. Please keep us updated. Sending lots of love to you and Trax from the Z's of New Mexico.

[breezy]

Poor Trax. I hope that it's just a bug or something. Please keep us posted on his vet visit.

[bunnybutts]

~~~~~~~~~~~:RADAR:~~~~~~~~~~~

good vibes and prayers for you and Traxs

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

I will keep you and Trax in my thoughts.

[Artos]

Its 9.16am. Trax slept well. Carried him down this morning. He ate well too. Enjoyed his food. Gave him a slab of iced pumpkin ( froze the cooked pumpkin in water and pumpkin/carrot juice). He loved it.

But he still cant walk. Hasnt pee-ed or poo-ed.

Noticed that he seemed heavier last night. He had dropped from 20kg to 17kg as a result of his vegetarian diet these past months. Vet was pleased because Trax was obese. But last night when I carried him, he seemed heavier than the 17kg. Wonder if he has retained all the pee and poo inside him!

Left him at the car porch (in case he needs to pee and poo) while I am upstairs doing my work and typing. Will leave soon for the vet's. Pray that its nothing serious but a sprain or something. I feel so guilty for pushing/pulling him to go to the front yard to do his business. Maybe I pulled /pushed him too hard in my impatience and he sprained his rear end in some way.

Funny thing is that he doesnt seem to be in pain ie he didnt yelp when I moved him around.

[CorgiMum]

Good luck at the Vets, will be waiting to hear how Trax is when you get back home. It a good sign that he ate I would think.

[taflar]

Am taking him to the vet tomorrow at 1030am (just phoned them for appointment).
Those of you with experience with old corgis- what do you think it is?
Slipped disc? Pulled muscle? His improved appetite, his chomping and growling and his legs involuntarily thumping when he was scratched on the chest -are these good signs?
Do pray. Thanks.

With an old dogs you just never know. It could be a disk problem in which case as little movement as possible would be best. Crate rest, carry them up and down stairs and in and out, until you can see your vet. Outside only for potty breaks and keep the dog on leash.

And just an FYI for everyone. If you ever suspect a disk problem, get your dog to the vet NOW, this is an emergency. Do not wait till tomorrow or in the morning. The sooner the vet can start treatement the better the outcome will be for your dog. DO NOT WAIT!!!!!!!! I can't emphasise that enough.

Symptoms of a disk problem would be weakness or paralysis in one or more limbs. Roached (hunched up) back, pain, unwillingness to move or walk. Usually it's the back legs that you notice problems in but that really depends on which disk.

With an old dog you need to seek a vet's advice sooner rather than later. They can go downhill very quickly.

I hope Trax is ok, I'm sure you've seen the vet by now. Let us know what happened.

Peggy

[MVons]

And just an FYI for everyone. If you ever suspect a disk problem, get your dog to the vet NOW, this is an emergency. Do not wait till tomorrow or in the morning. The sooner the vet can start treatment the better the outcome will be for your dog. DO NOT WAIT!!!!!!!! I can't emphasize that enough.

Symptoms of a disk problem would be weakness or paralysis in one or more limbs. Roached (hunched up) back, pain, unwillingness to move or walk. Usually it's the back legs that you notice problems in but that really depends on which disk. With an old dog you need to seek a vet's advice sooner rather than later. They can go downhill very quickly. Peggy, I need to understand what a Vet can do. I thought that you shouldn't bother going to any Vet except one that has an MRI machine which is what is used to tell about the disks. Mine didn't have one so I didn't go. Now there is an emergency hospital that is available. But what can a Vet do with a herniated disk? I thought treatment is just immobility. This is how I treated Pepper and I was able to treat her better than a Vet who doesn't have the time to constantly monitor. If I was working outside the home, then yes, a Vet.

What back problems can a Vet help with that timing is important? What is their treatment? This is good to know when some of us live a ways from our Vet.

Artos, Pepper's hind end at age 13 was completely paralyzed and she didn't pee or poop for 24 hours. I carried her and supported her and then she went. This isn't the time for pumpkin to firm the stool, it is time for vitamin C to make it loose, easy to pass. Pepper had one spot on her hip that she yelped once when I touched and never a groan or yelp otherwise. She got better each day. A neighbor's doxie yelped constantly and a $1000 later, the Vet couldn't find what was wrong (no MRI) and she recovered on her own. We believe Pepper fell down the stairs or jumped off a chair. Never will I leave a dog upstairs when I'm leaving the house. That was a lesson learned the very hard way.

[MrsGrace]

Peggy, I need to understand what a Vet can do. I thought that you shouldn't bother going to any Vet except one that has an MRI machine which is what is used to tell about the disks. Mine didn't have one so I didn't go. Now there is an emergency hospital that is available. But what can a Vet do with a herniated disk? I thought treatment is just immobility. This is how I treated Pepper and I was able to treat her better than a Vet who doesn't have the time to constantly monitor. If I was working outside the home, then yes, a Vet.

What back problems can a Vet help with that timing is important? What is their treatment? This is good to know when some of us live a ways from our Vet.

I think this may lean more towards, you need to know what you're dealing with so you don't exacerbate it. You do NOT want to mess with slipped disks, in yourself or your dog. It is an emergency as they need to know if the disk is pressing on the spinal cord and is threatening permanently mobility. It's a preventative measure, in my humble opinion. If your dog can't walk, something major is wrong and while you may find you can't do anything to help it in the long run, maybe there is a specific way you need to do things to keep it from getting worse. And besides, I know personally, I'm not a vet. So I would never presume to assume as the saying goes. :CUTE: (or self-diagnose, don't get me started on that one!!)

That was my take anyway. Peggy, jump in here....

[corgiland]

Lots of good vibes and prayers for Trax.............

Thinking of you......

"Corgiland"
Beverly

[Artos]

Thanks for all the advice and prayers etc folks.
Just came back from the vet not long ago.
1. Trax doesnt have slipped disc etc.
He has tick fever.
Urea and creaternin (?spelling) count are not good.
Red blood cells at 15 (low).
Blood test shows he has the rarer kind of blood- something like 1.1negative or something (?) Most dogs have the other kind of blood.
Vet asked me to bring one of my dogs - ie Marky the big one- over for blood test. He wasnt optimistic about Marky as donor since that type of blood is rare. His own dog might be a standby.

2. Left Trax at clinic and rushed home to get Marky.
On the way back, got ACCURATE, the tick killer (Frontline doesnt work nowadays on many dogs. Vet said mine was the 50th complaint re Frontline he has heard. He suggested Accurate) spray. Washed Barn2, sprayed him, sprayed room, etc. Picked up Marky and went to vet.

3.Praise God! Miracle. Marky's blood was a perfect fit!!
My dad was praying all the time that it would be a fit.
Marky gave blood. I drove Marky home, washed him and sprayed him as well....

4 Trax will receive transfusion (he probably is receiving it now) plus iron jab and antibiotics at the clinic. I will pick him up tonight at 10pm. They will feed him his favourite food- Addiction Brushtail (dehydrated kibble). BTW, the vet is the one who created the Addiction diet!

They might leave a needle (dont know what they call it) on his throat (covered up with gauze or whatever) so that if they need to give emergency jabs, they can save time in doing it.

5. Some concern-his kidneys. I hope that the urea and the createnin(??) count situation is linked with tick fever. If so, the situation will be controlled soon.
We found one hard movable lump on his chest. Vet says it might be benign or it might be cancer. Pray that it is benign.

Thanks. Will update as I go along....

[mtoy]

Thank goodness you know what it is, and it's wonderful you already have a donor! Tick diseases are tricky, but it sounds like you have a brilliant vet.

Get well soon Trax!:SMILE:

[Jespah]

Knowing what it is and being able to act so quickly and have Miracle Marky makes all the difference. We are all praying for a quick and complete recovery for Trax. <<<HUGS>>>
+WUBCLUB+

Deb

[jcj528]

Healing Vibes for Trax~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

Sending lots of long distance healing vibes your way!!!

[CorgiMum]

It's a blessing that you have a good Vet and have faith in him, I'm sending lots of healing vibes for Trax's fast recovery.

[Artos]

Thanks all.
Here's the latest:

Trax was panting when they started the blood transfusion.
So vet decided to do it very slowly.
Instead of him being ready for pickup tonight at 10pm, I have to pick him up tomorrow.
He wont be finished with the blood transfusion till tomorrow about 10 or 11am. I will probably pick him up at 12.30 or 1pm.
They say he is stable now.
Pl keep praying.Thanks

[CorgiMum]

Continued prayers for Trax, and a hug for you Atros. {{{{{{{{}}}}}}

[ZdogZ]

Sending lots of love, thoughts, prayers, and vibes for you and Trax!

[ColColt]

Did they know what type of tick it was, Artos? I'd have been in knots if I had been in your place. May the Lord keep and protect him from any complications and watch over all that this not happen again. It can age you quickly. I'll be remembering Trax and praying for a great recovery. I know how you must be feeling about this and my heart goes out to you.

[Artos]

Thanks all. Really appreciate the support and prayers.
Vet told me that there is only one type of tick in Singapore...

Yup. My stomach is in knots. I have lost dogs before and every passing tears my guts out. Vet seems quite confident that Trax would recover with the blood transfusion, antibiotics and iron jab.Am worried about the kidney situation but more concerned about the lump. Any one with experience re hard movable lumps on dogs?

Just phoned the clinic to check how he is getting on. (they have someone there 24 hours). They said he is stable, he ate something...and he is trying to sleep. Hope to pick him up after my meeting at 1pm tomorrow.

Thanks.

[MrsGrace]

Just got in and checked this first thing. Sending more vibes and prayers your way..... And big hugs to you. Stay well... +WUBCLUB+

[mtoy]

Any one with experience re hard movable lumps on dogs?



Millie has a fatty tumor on her chest. It's about 3/4", moveable and it feels like it lies between her skin layer and muscles. It doesn't seem to have grown since it was discovered. They can become malignant like any other tissue I check it for any chages.

[Fluffypants]

Oh Artos! You must be a wreck! I am just seeing this thread now, so am sending extra vibes to you for strength, and Trax for a speedy recovery, and good news on the kidneys and lump ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~

And a big hug to Marky for helping his brother.+WUBCLUB+

[Jespah]

Am worried about the kidney situation but more concerned about the lump. Any one with experience re hard movable lumps on dogs?

Riley my first Corgi had one and honestly until they get in they can't realy tell you what they are dealing with. She was young, and even though they thought it was probably a fatty lump they weren't convinced because she was just 2 and it seemed odd. She did fine, turned out to be a fatty lump. She had to have a drain left in it and wear a cone - she was a champ. Sje was quite sucky and insisted on sleeping in my arms a t night. I'll tell you, love is holding your cone-headed Corgi all night in bed while her drain leaks bloody fluids onto you.

We are still sending our best to you, Marky and Trax.

Deb

[breezy]

so glad that you know what it is and are able to treat it. Praying he continues to heal quickly.

[corgiland]

Continued prayers coming your way Artos .......................

"Corgiland"
Beverly

[taflar]

Peggy, I need to understand what a Vet can do. I thought that you shouldn't bother going to any Vet except one that has an MRI machine which is what is used to tell about the disks. Mine didn't have one so I didn't go. Now there is an emergency hospital that is available. But what can a Vet do with a herniated disk? I thought treatment is just immobility. This is how I treated Pepper and I was able to treat her better than a Vet who doesn't have the time to constantly monitor. If I was working outside the home, then yes, a Vet.

What back problems can a Vet help with that timing is important? What is their treatment? This is good to know when some of us live a ways from our Vet.

A vet can possibly rule out other things. Sometimes a ruptured/herniated disk will show up on normal x rays. Sometimes the disk is being pushed up by a bone spur which will definately show up on an x ray. (The bone spur anyway.)

The vet can start the dog on prednisone and that can help relive the inflamation. Mikey had a hunched back, weak rear, and didn't want to move. We took him to the vet immediately, he was started on pred and the next day was much better. So yes, there are things a vet can do even without an MRI.

So, my advice is still if you suspect a back/spinal problem of any kind get to the vet NOW.

Peggy

[taflar]

(or self-diagnose, don't get me started on that one!!)

Aw, you're no fun!! ;)

You were right about what I was saying. There are things a vet can do even if it's to tell you what it's not.

As for self digagnosing, well, sometimes I just "know" what the problem is. Usually because I've seen it before.

For instance there was the time I took Tango in. We couldn't get into the vet we usually used so had to go to another. When he came in the room and introduced himself I said "This is Tango, she's 8 years old. She's got pyometra and she needs to be spayed".

He looks at me and asked if it was ok if he looked at her. He took her temp, looked her over and said yup, she has pyometra. And of course he spayed her right away.

Peggy

[taflar]

1. Trax doesnt have slipped disc etc.
He has tick fever.

In this case a slipped disk might have been better. Sorry to hear this, my best wishes for his recovery.

Blood test shows he has the rarer kind of blood- something like 1.1negative or something (?) Most dogs have the other kind of blood.

Blood types (like with humans) are either negative or positive. His is negative. (Such as O- or O+)

They might leave a needle (dont know what they call it) on his throat (covered up with gauze or whatever) so that if they need to give emergency jabs, they can save time in doing it.

It's an IV for intravenious. Meaning it's in the vein. And actually they don't leave a needle in they insert a small tube with a needle but remove the needle and only leave the tube in.

By leaving it in they can add medications faster, by inserting it into the IV itself, and won't have to keep inserting an IV into the dog. It's pretty standard proceedure for animals and pets with serious conditions that might require additional intravenious injections.

Peggy

[taflar]

Trax was panting when they started the blood transfusion.
So vet decided to do it very slowly.

Panting can mean many things. Dogs pant when hot, when stressed, in pain or even if not getting enough oxygen in the blood. With his red cell count being down, that's probably what's causing this. The transfusion should help.

Peggy

[taflar]

Any one with experience re hard movable lumps on dogs?

Yes, it can be almost anything, might be cancer, might not be. Might be a cyst. Get him over the tick thing and then worry about the lump. That's not his biggest worry right now.

Just phoned the clinic to check how he is getting on. (they have someone there 24 hours). They said he is stable, he ate something...and he is trying to sleep. Hope to pick him up after my meeting at 1pm tomorrow.

That he wants to eat is good.

Peggy

[sutulu]

I know Artos and Trax are in Singapore. Is tick fever in Singapore the same as the Lyme disease that we see?

I have read some horror stories about Lyme disease and as I remember, some dogs actually had to be on meds for life.

I am so glad Trax's Vet is optomistic.

I hope Trax will soon be home with you Artos.

Susan

[Artos]

Sje was quite sucky and insisted on sleeping in my arms a t night. I'll tell you, love is holding your cone-headed Corgi all night in bed while her drain leaks bloody fluids onto you.



Ah...this is really love!! haha

[Artos]

Thanks to all. No- I dont think the ticks here are associated with the Lyme disease. Good to know that the cyst can be something other than cancer.

Its so strange to not have Trax in the house. We are a five-some: dad, 3 furkids and I. Barn was looking a bit lost last night. Marky sensed something wasnt right but the poor boy was getting over his blood transfusion (as donor) episode : a bit unsteady on his legs. They gave him a mini-knockoff when they took his blood....so he's a bit groggy...
Gave him some liver to boost up his strength.

Am now trying to figure out (before I go for my meeting at around 10am) how I can make sure that Barn doesnt try to play with Trax and chew the covered up IV on his neck (not sure how they are going to do it. Will know when I collect him this afternoon). The thought of the IV makes me nervous. I hate tubes sticking onto my wrist in hospitals. Small comfort - heard they will leave it for only a week. Might be able to live with that.

Barn's been scratching and itching for part of the night. Might have to spray the stuff on the room and on him again today before I go to work.

Thanks for prayers....

[taflar]

I know Artos and Trax are in Singapore. Is tick fever in Singapore the same as the Lyme disease that we see?

I have read some horror stories about Lyme disease and as I remember, some dogs actually had to be on meds for life.


My understanding is that Lyme disease is just one form of tick disease. There are others that you (or your dogs) can get, even here in the US.

Peggy

[ColColt]

Artos-In the short time I've had my furry friend with me(two weeks tomorrow) I can't image not having him hear when I come home now. He is such a joy in his excitement to see me come in.

My heart goes out to you and Trax and I hope he'll recover without any repercussion whatsoever and that all in your household will be healthy soon. I'm requesting no more Corgi sickness this year!!

[Milosmom]

Artos---i'm sorry to hear Trax is having health problems, thank goodness your Vet seems right on top of things! That is really key. Continued best wishes and healing vibes to Trax!

[dcole]

Oh, Artos, I'm so sorry to hear about Trax's health problems! I've been really busy this past week and haven't logged on much, so I'm just now reading this thread.

Good news that your vet is optimistic about his recovery. Many, many healing vibes coming your way! +WUBCLUB+

[MrsGrace]

Ah...this is really love!! haha

That's just part of being a real Mom. +WUBCLUB+

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

The good with the bad.

[MrsGrace]

The good with the bad.

*nod* Some of my fondest memories with my daughter are when she was sick, raging fever and poos... and she finally calmed down and zonked on my chest. In the comfy rocking chair. Peaceful angel... if only for a few hours. :LAUGH:

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

Watching my two sleep is one of my favorite things to do. They are so peaceful, and Miss Gambler is hilarious, she smiles and sticks her tongue out when she sleeps. I have so many photos of her sleeping. Mojo is fun to wake up, because her tongue starts going as her eyes open, it's reflex, she wakes up wanting to love. Yep, I love the sleep part of furhood(my version of childhood).

[Abbykat]

I too am just reading all this for the first time -Thinking of you all - Artos,Dad, Trax, Barn and Hooray for Marky. What awful things the ticks are - Do you have them where you live? or have you been out in the countryside. I live in semi suburbia and use the monthly Advantix, but if we go upcountry have to use it fortnightly for the ticks, and Abby has such thick fur I worry I would miss a tick when checking for same. Hoping Trax continues to recover from all ailments.

[Artos]

Update:
Just brought Trax home. He was well enough in the clinic to scold me.:TWITCHY:
The Urea was 82 yesterday.Now it is 55 (normal is 7-26).
Creatin was 2.40 yesterday. Today is 1.50 (normal is 0.30 to 1.40)
PCV (whatever it is. I think it is platelet count) was 15% yesterday. Now it is 35%.
Recovering. Thank God!
They have a tube in his arm. Will remove it next week when he goes in for checkup Other than that, he is walking well and drinking well. Not into food (perhaps they fed him this morning) but will try feeding him later.

Thanks for praying folks!

[Jespah]

Artos, you know how much we all have been worried and thinking about Trax and all of you - so thank you so much for letting us know how he is. I am sure you are greatly relieved and are very happy to have him home. So are we, keep us updated on how he is doing and we will keep the good vibes coming!!

[ZdogZ]

I'm glad that Trax is home. I have wondering about him. Give him some love from us. Keep us updated on him.

[CorgiMum]

I'm so glad to hear that Trax is home now Artos. Sending continues vibes for a speedy recovery for him.

[sutulu]

Wow, it sounds like Trax is making goodm progress. I hope he continues to improve. Let's hope this will turn into a terrible scare and he will be as good as new very soon.

Susan

[jcj528]

Glad Trax is doing better. Please give the little guy some hugs for us.

[Artos]

Trax's pills:

THE PROBLEM
The diet that the vet prescribed does not have anything for me to hide his pills in. If I try pushing the pills into his mouth, I risk having my fingers amputated.The old boy's a chomp-er.

THE SOLUTION
I have taken to putting the pills in the blender with his food. When it is in a
mushy state, he will lick it up.

QUESTION:
Will blending the pills affect the potency of the pills?

Thanks.

[Fluffypants]

Keeping my fingers crossed for continued improvement. +WUBCLUB+

[Jespah]

If he eats all of his food - it shouldn't be any trouble at all - as long as it's okay to take the pills with food. I would ask the vet if a small piece of cheese or whatever you think he would need to take the pill would be okay. I would imagine that the benefit of him getting the medication far outweighs the danger from a small piece of cheese.

[love2corgis]

Best wishes to Trax and hope he is on the road to recovery.
Sooty and Cindy send some Welsh hugs.

[MVons]

Artos, give the Vet a call as some med is timed released, or has a coating to make it past the stomach to the intestine to be absorbed.

I NEVER thought of Singapore having ticks, learn something everyday. Tick fever is found in Colorado in the US. Very happy to see Trax's lab results being much better. I bought one of those pill shooters, but Chester has been fine with my "dropping it down the shoot" for the heart worm medication.

[corgiland]

Artos...........glad to hear that Trax is home and will keep sending good vibes your way for continued improvement.....

"Corgiland"
Beverly

[mtoy]

Trax's pills:

THE PROBLEM
The diet that the vet prescribed does not have anything for me to hide his pills in. If I try pushing the pills into his mouth, I risk having my fingers amputated.The old boy's a chomp-er.

THE SOLUTION
I have taken to putting the pills in the blender with his food. When it is in a
mushy state, he will lick it up.

QUESTION:
Will blending the pills affect the potency of the pills?

Thanks.

I have the same problem. No foods until tomorrow but I'm supposed to give her a pill tonight. Sheesh. But I think it's safe for me to blend it as I'm supposed to give her half a pill. I'll give it in some kefir.

Good to hear Trax is home!

[bunnybutts]

When Emma had to have pills everyday while recovering from Heartworms I would put the pill in a small glob of peanutbutter and stick it to the roof of her mouth. Worked every time

Good luck with Trax, glad to hear he is home!

[MVons]

When Emma had to have pills everyday while recovering from Heartworms I would put the pill in a small glob of peanutbutter and stick it to the roof of her mouth. Worked every time

Good luck with Trax, glad to hear he is home!Great idea, and get the camera ready for the tongue/lip smacking photos.

[ZdogZ]

put the pill in a small glob of peanutbutter and stick it to the roof of her mouth.
This is the only way I can get Zip to take pills.

[love2corgis]

But Sooty has cottoned on to peanut butter and will like it all off and then spit out the pill. I have to watch then that Cindy is not near as she would probably dive on the pill and eat it.

[CorgiMum]

Artos, is Trax's food dry kibble, is that why you can't hide it?

You can take some of the kibble, soak it in a little water and then coat the pill, sort of like making a small meatball with a surprise centre.:WINK:

How is he doing today?

[Artos]

Artos, is Trax's food dry kibble, is that why you can't hide it?

You can take some of the kibble, soak it in a little water and then coat the pill, sort of like making a small meatball with a surprise centre.:WINK:

How is he doing today?

Thanks all. Trax is a master at spewing out pills after swollowing the food balls. Sigh. Hence the difficulty. I have been blending his medicine with his food and letting him lick all of it up from a spoon...(OK, my boy is very spoilt. Hand and spoon feeding these few days....)

The update re Trax is in the new thread about our new dog blog....Created it last week. Put all the updates there. Will put it up after posting this note.
Thanks!

[dcole]

When Emma had to have pills everyday while recovering from Heartworms I would put the pill in a small glob of peanutbutter and stick it to the roof of her mouth. Worked every time

Good luck with Trax, glad to hear he is home!

My Mom had a dog that would "suck" the peanut butter off of a pill, then spit it out on the floor! :SHOCKED:
The ONLY thing that ever worked was when she'd stick his pill in a spoonful of ice cream. Since the ice cream was cold, he'd swallow it right away - no time to pick out the pill. :LAUGH:

[breezy]

I've never had good luck with the pb either. I have to just pry their little mouths open and stick it so far back that they have to swallow.

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

I am going to remember that ice-cream trick, both my two go crazy for sorbets and frozen juices also, (and Mojo hates peanut butter) so they would gobble down the ice-cream/juice drink quickly. It may just work for me. Filed and saved!!! Thanks.

[Artos]

For updates on Trax, see this
http://dogfather-samsengkia.blogspot.com

Really appreciate the help, prayers and support from all of you.
Trax still looks tired. Not sure why.

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

I'm "severely" (doctor's classification, not mine) anemic Artos, and I know that I can have bad episodes where I just have no energy, and that's the word my husband will use in describing me during those times, "tired". It's probably just from his blood issues and will straighten itself out once the counts get back in the right range, and with tick fever, that could take some time. He may act "tired" for months. I would talk to the vet about his eating habits, you've mentioned his weight problem before, and if he is lethargic and getting no exercise, you don't want him to start packing on the pounds, which could happen quickly. Your vet may advise to cut his diet. Just a thought.

[taflar]

Thanks all. Trax is a master at spewing out pills after swollowing the food balls. Sigh. Hence the difficulty. I have been blending his medicine with his food and letting him lick all of it up from a spoon...(OK, my boy is very spoilt. Hand and spoon feeding these few days....)

As someone else said, check with your vet about the pills, as some are coated for a slower absorbtion, and crushing to blending them with his food could change how he gets them into his system. Most are ok to do this with but please check with your vet.

Peggy

[taflar]

I NEVER thought of Singapore having ticks, learn something everyday. Tick fever is found in Colorado in the US.

Tick fever can be found in any state with ticks. I know of people on Corgi-L in the eastern and mid western states who have had dogs with this. It's not just Colorado.

Some sites for further reading:
http://www.mirage-samoyeds.com/tick.htm
http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/medical/tick-diseases.html
http://www.dogsandticks.com/ticks/index.html

Try a search on "tick fever"+dogs for even more.

Peggy

[Artos]

As someone else said, check with your vet about the pills, as some are coated for a slower absorbtion, and crushing to blending them with his food could change how he gets them into his system. Most are ok to do this with but please check with your vet.

Peggy

Wise. Will do. Thanks!

[ColColt]

I hope Trax will continue to do better, Artos. They can be a huge source of worry when we can't decipher their actions and feelings. I've just recently been there. I'm going to try to give Bubba his first Interceptor pill tomorrow and am debating whether to give it to him straight from the package or hide it in the Hills i/d I was given for his tummy. They can be con artist just like humans. My daughter when she was about 12 was suppose to take a pill for her asthma/allergy problems and they were at that time $1.50/ea. I had to watch her take the water and pill and visually see her do it. This con artist was putting the pill under her tongue and later spitting it out in her trash can!! So, beware the multitude of ways we think they've taken it.

[Artos]

Thanks.

Tonight Trax seems to be better. Ate well. (Finished the concealed medicine as well) .
Playing now with his squeaky toy.
I dont know how many times he has climbed up on my bed in search of that toy tonight....He and Barn2 have been going up and down the bed..(I have been busy chasing them off MY SIDE of the bed every few minutes!)

Only thing now is that he seems quite interested in getting the tube stuff off his paw. Between making his toy squeak, he chews at his bandage- trying to get rid of it. I am hesitant about putting the Eliz collar on him because he is now quite cheerful (and the E collar will depress him). Hope he doesnt work on the bandage when I am away tomorrow.

[taflar]

Only thing now is that he seems quite interested in getting the tube stuff off his paw. Between making his toy squeak, he chews at his bandage- trying to get rid of it. I am hesitant about putting the Eliz collar on him because he is now quite cheerful (and the E collar will depress him). Hope he doesnt work on the bandage when I am away tomorrow.

I suggest that you put the collar on him at night and when you are not home. That way he won't pull the IV out. And trust me, if he's trying when you're home he'll get it out while you're gone.

Peggy

[dcole]

Artos,

Glad to hear that Trax continues to improve. He sounds like he is nearly back to his feisty old self. :CUTE: I read his blog update and laughed out loud at the part where it mentions Marky "redesigning" his ears! :LAUGH: Little did Marky know he would be so important to his brother, years later. +WUBCLUB+

[manymuddypaws]

glad to hear that Trax is improving :)

[Artos]

Thanks. The blue bandage is still intact. He has not been chewing....

Yup. I think he is feeling better. He has even started fighting with Barn2 (play fighting). Climbed up the two flight of stairs last night....before I had the time to catch him and carry him up from our first floor to the second floor!
And boy, can he scold!! He talks, scolds, nags- rhythmically...and LOUDLY.
Yup! He is looking better.

Am proud of Marky. He might become a long term volunteer canine blood donor from now on. Haha.

Thanks for all your support and prayers.

[ZdogZ]

I'm glad that Trax is feeling better. Poor baby!

[ColColt]

This was good to read, Artos. I'm glad Trax is doing better and becoming active enough to want to play with his comrades. Nothing like a well, happy Corgi to thrill the heart. I hope he continues to improve.:CUTE:

[Artos]

Latest re Trax:
Vet said today that he is at the starting stage of renal failure. Urea and creat. counts not good. At the rate he is going, he would last only for 12 to 24 months. Can get complications as well.

Vet has asked me to put him on drips daily. Some kind of water to be dripped into him to help him clear his system daily. I have to jab the needle into his skin and have half a bag of that stuff go into him. Each drip session would be about 15 mins.

On the 16th of August, I have to take him in for a tube to be put into his body. That tube will be used for his peritoneal dialysis. I have to learn to do that dialysis for him daily- or once in two days etc.

Am freaking out. I hate needles. To poke needles into my boy daily. Oh dear.

Am seriously thinking of renovating the house asap and getting a foreign live in maid (this is very common in Singapore). Without one, it would be very hard on me because my dad is in his 80s and cant be of much help in many areas.

[pookabeansjd]

Oh, i'm so sorry artos. My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.

[MrsGrace]

Oh Artos... I am so sorry to hear about Trax.

Lots of prayers and vibes your way. As always.

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

Artos, you have to be heartbroken, and nothing I can say can ease that, but just know that you are in my thoughts. Give Trax a big hug for me, he's always reminded me of Miss Gambler, more than any other dog on this site.

[LaRositaMonita]

Condolences, empathy, and big hugs going out to you and to Trax, Artos. This has been such a difficult week for you...

[Fluffypants]

I am so sorry to hear this Artos. How sad. I hope that you are able to get someone to help you. That's a lot for one person to bear.

{{{{{Artos}}}}} +WUBCLUB+ {{{{{Trax}}}}}} +WUBCLUB+

[MVons]

Artos, I'm in tears. Read the bridge post on Pepper who was in the late stage of renal failure. I don't wish this on any dog. But the good news is that it is the beginning stage and dogs can live quite a while.

There is a yahoo group called K9Kidneys who will ask you to post your dog's blood results. They are extremely helpful but I found them after Pepper died. They are great for questions, support, etc.

The worst part about renal failure is there is no cure. But there are things to help it not progress. I did read of a homeopathy story of a human whose blood work did improve. But I got the remedies in 10 days and that wasn't soon enough to do good on Pepper.

People with cats do the needle and drip and my sister said it wasn't bad because the needle goes right under the skin. See how it is and you might not be freaked out once you are used to the idea.

Pepper didn't require a ton of additional work until the last two weeks of her lift when the incontinence started.

[mtoy]

I am so sorry to hear this about Trax. It sounds like you have some good things to start with from the vet, and as for the needles, it will get easier. Poor guy, but he sure is loved, that's for sure!

Don't forget to take care of yourself, too. You sure have a lot on your plate right now.
<hugs>

[ZdogZ]

I hate to hear that about Trax. Please know that you and him are in my thoughts and prayers.

[taflar]

Vet has asked me to put him on drips daily. Some kind of water to be dripped into him to help him clear his system daily. I have to jab the needle into his skin and have half a bag of that stuff go into him. Each drip session would be about 15 mins.

What you are being asked to do is give him subcutaneous fluids, (aka sub-q). Subcutaneous means under the skin. You are putting the fluids under the skin to be absorbed.

Probably the fluid is ringers lactate or a saline solution. I would not think this would have to be done every day for the rest of his life if you can get him to drink enough. You might ask that.

To get him to drink more, add a bit of lemon juice to his water. Makes them drink more, and yes that means peeing more too. (Which the sub-q fluids will also do.)

Am freaking out. I hate needles. To poke needles into my boy daily. Oh dear.

It's really not that bad. Try it a few times before you decide you can't handle it. And ask if it will be for the rest of his life or just for a short time.

Peggy

[Artos]

Much thanks.
Dr Ly says that
a. the subcut. drips will need to be there till the insertion of the tube on the 16th.
b. After the 16th, I will need to do the dialysis once a day or once in two or three days.

Friend of mine who has 40 cats and about 10 dogs - some of which are handicapped eg without back limbs, with brain damage, epilepsy etc.(she has 2 maids and is an animal rescuer) told me that at present, 12 of her cats require the subcut. drips. They all have kidney failure. Good news is that none of her cats die of kidney failure. They die of other stuff (not complications from kidney failure) eg existing lumps, Feline HIV etc. The cats also live to ripe old age.

[corgiland]

Artos.....so sorry to hear this latest news on Trax.........will certaining keep the prayers and good vibes going your way...

"Corgiland"
Beverly

[Artos]

The updates:
http://dogfather-samsengkia.blogspot.com/

[dcole]

Artos,

Keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers.

[ColColt]

I got behind keeping up, Artos, and am sorry to hear of the ongoing problems with Trax and of the dialysis. I know a little about renal failure as my daughter when she was around 10 was diagnosed with (I can't spell this) focal glumerular schlorsis) which is renal failure. Her creatnin levels were horrendous and she was loosing 5600mg of protein a day via the kidneys. They put her on Prednisone and she got fat and her legs developed stretch marks at 12-13 years old. I took her to Vanderbuilt in Nashville where I found out there was no cure at that time.

A doctor here tried her on an arthritic drug, Meclamin(something like that) and believe it or not, it helped her tremendously. The loss of protein went slowly down to nearly zero after loosing 5600 mg per day. Had it not been for this, she would have been on dialysis by the time she was 16. Perhaps you could mention something like this to your doctor and see it something of this order would help Trax. Nevertheless, he's still being lifted up to the throne of Grace.

[Penutsma]

OH Artos! I just saw the updates on this thread. I sympathize with you completely about poor Trax! I can't imagine having to do that to Delilah. You and Trax will be in my prayers all the time.

[CorgiMum]

Thinking of you and Trax Artos. {{{{{{{}}}}}}

[Artos]

What you are being asked to do is give him subcutaneous fluids, (aka sub-q). Subcutaneous means under the skin. You are putting the fluids under the skin to be absorbed.

Probably the fluid is ringers lactate or a saline solution. I would not think this would have to be done every day for the rest of his life if you can get him to drink enough. You might ask that.

To get him to drink more, add a bit of lemon juice to his water. Makes them drink more, and yes that means peeing more too. (Which the sub-q fluids will also do.)



It's really not that bad. Try it a few times before you decide you can't handle it. And ask if it will be for the rest of his life or just for a short time.

Peggy

The actual stuff I have to put into him daily is called COMPOUND SODIUM LACTATE INTRAVENUS INFUSION BP HARTMAN'S SOLUTION.
First day- needle ok. Second day- needle ok. Third day- needle slipped. Liquid squirted all around. Had to redo. Fourth day (this morning)- needle came off. Liquid on floor. I had to do it the second time....By that time I am all nerves and close to panic. I really hope I dont have to do it all the time. Hope that when he gets the tube for his peritoneal dialysis- it would be easier.

Had contractor come and look at the house last week- need to create a room for the new maid. Am contacting the maid agency. Now all new maid employers have to attend a 3 hour course! Govt. requirement. Just signed up for the course.

Marky will be happy if we get a maid. The maid's room with be near where Marky sleeps and Marky will have more human company....not just bird company....Pray that the maid will be someone who loves dogs.

Looked at Trax's gums tonight while trying to get his medicine into him. Looks pale. Am concerned. Is that tick fever coming back or is that caused by the kidney situation? Dont know.

Am seeing vet again on Friday for a jab on him.(Forgot what that is for already).

[sutulu]

Artos:

I am so very sad to learn the diagnosis of Trax. I hope this is somthing they can control and make the time he has pain free and allow him to enjoy life with you.

We will be thinking of you often and wishing the best for your precious Corgi.

Susan

[CorgiMum]

I'm sorry to hear that you are having so much trouble with the needles Artos. I would too.

Fingers and paws crossed for a good Vet visit on Friday.

[Fluffypants]

Jackie and I are keeping our paws crossed too Artos. I hope that things get easier from now on. Hugs & corgi kisses to you & your family. +WUBCLUB+

[taflar]

The actual stuff I have to put into him daily is called COMPOUND SODIUM LACTATE INTRAVENUS INFUSION BP HARTMAN'S SOLUTION.

Same thing as or very similar to Ringers Lactate.

Looked at Trax's gums tonight while trying to get his medicine into him. Looks pale. Am concerned. Is that tick fever coming back or is that caused by the kidney situation? Dont know.

Pale gums can mean many things. I'd have him checked by the vet. And before Friday. He could be anemic, poor circulation, red blood cells being destroyed, et.

Peggy

[Milosmom]

Artos, bless your heart....you have been through a lot, I hope Trax is feeling better.

[Artos]

Thanks all.
My friend visited me with her hubby to help fix the computer last night. She looked at Trax's gums (she is quite a dog expert )and said that it didnt look pale to her.

But I noticed that Trax is more lethargic nowadays, with less appetite. I have to hand feed him with blended food. There are times when he will wolf down some of his food...So I cant really tell. Maybe when I fed him- he wasnt hungry? We feed him 3x a day (his normal feeding was 2x a day before although the amount hasnt increased).

But he has put on weight. Heavier to carry. Is that normal for kidney patients? I thought they lose weight....Or is that water retention?

He has pee-d but I have not been noticing much...except that when he lets go- he leaves behind a whole pool of plain coloured liquid. A lot to clean up.

Sorry- questions above a bit disjointed. Been under a lot of stress lately. Yesterday I had two car accidents. I drove through a junction and a taxi hit my front bumper. Everyone was ok but my bumper wasnt too great. After filing an official report with the authorities re the accident, I drove home. While I eased the car into my driveway, I scratched the side of the car quite badly.

[MVons]

Oh Artos, you have a tremendous burden and I wish you could leave the driving to others because your mind is elsewhere - rightly so! But we all have to get around.

Yes, weight gain can be a problem. I had to monitor Pepper's regularly, but they drop it easy. Hindsight I would have weighed her twice a week rather than weekly. Some days they are more lethargic than others.

As kidneys get worse the dog is said to loose their appetite. Pepper was a typical corgi and never lost her appetite just got picky in what she'd eat. I'm indebted to Pedigree because it wasn't tainted and that was one food she loved throughout the kidney problem. So when she hated the fish in wellness, I'd open a Pedigree and she'd eat.

If the urine is still colored that is good! When urine is clear and colorless, that is not good to me. Of course having snow helped me see the change. Breath smell was the biggest indicator of kidney's failing.

This is all just based on Pepper's condition and other dogs might have different experiences. I know one corgi that is alive. The owners said heck with the special diet when their dog refused to eat. The owner on the second day said they'd rather have their dog die of kidney than starvation. They got out the sausages and their dog ate!

Good to hear on the pale gums. White gums can indicate bleeding somewhere in their body.

[dcole]

Oh Artos, you are really having a time of it! Glad to hear you weren't hurt in the taxi incident.

Sorry I can't give you any info regarding kidney problems in dogs. I've only had cats with kidney problems, and never noticed that weight gain was part of it.

Continued healing vibes for you, Trax and the rest of your family. +WUBCLUB+

[Artos]

When dog has kidney failure- when do you let go? When do you stop trying?

[ZdogZ]

Oh, Artos, my heart breaks for you and Trax. You will know when it is time to let go. I had to do that last summer with my cat. I wish I could do something for you. Just know that you are in my thoughts and prayers.

[Artos]

When dog has kidney failure- when do you let go? When do you stop trying?


1 His gums are pale today.
2 His tummy looks a bit bloated. Has a dum dum sound when you pat it so am not sure if it is water retention.
3 He does pee (noted it was darkish bright yellow) and has lots of good poo
4 He will eat when persuaded (he has a restricted diet so thats a real problem. I am not allowed to give him anything other than tofu and veg and a little bit of rice and Zen Vegetarian addiction. Putting a tiny bit of the Addiction Summer Brushtail to spice up the food. He has taken one and a half small slabs of frozen iced pumpkin/carrot.
5 He seems reluctant to move too much but did a walk outside the house to pee just now. He can go down the stairs himself...I carried him up the past few nights because he was lying alone downstairs.

Just gave him the fluid IV for today.
He has appointment with the vet tomorrow morning.
Today is a public holiday- our National Day.

[MVons]

When dog has kidney failure- when do you let go? When do you stop trying?A question you ask each day. For me as long as Pepper had energy and appeared to be in no pain, she lived. When the incontinence started and she couldn't hold pee or poo for two hours and her back was so hunched, we knew the food was going straight through and even though she ate, she would waste away. Our Vet's advice was to bring her in if she didn't eat for 3 days straight. Your Vet will be able to advise as they will see how Trax is doing on the IV.

By the way Pepper was at times didn't move much, but the day before she was brought to the Vet for the end, she walked around the block, took 30 minutes instead of 10 but it was like her proof to all she could do it. Her moaning in the evening was when we started to question when to end it. If Trax is drinking water that is VERY good. Means, he'll pee alot, but you get used to it.

If only dogs could tell us when they were in pain and the quality of life is too low. Meanwhile we just look for signs and advice from the Vet. It is very hard Artos and our hearts go out to you.

Got to grab a tissue.

[taflar]

When dog has kidney failure- when do you let go? When do you stop trying?

A vet I worked for taught me to weigh the quality of his life with the quanity. If the quality is gone then the quanity doesn't matter.

Does he have more "good days" than "bad days"? If so then go on. If not then it's time to let him go.

If a dog stops eating they could be trying to tell you something. If he doesn't want to eat he might be trying to tell you it's time to let him go.

I know it's never easy. I've said before, that my brain knows when it's time, but my heart has a hard time letting go.

Hope this helps you.

Peggy

[Artos]

It helps. Thanks.
So far he is eating ok although sometimes he isnt keen on his food at all and needs strong persuasion....(I think he is sick of the food bec of the strict diet he is on) . Will be taking him to vet in about two hours time for his checkup and special jab (not sure what it is).
Will update.

[Jespah]

When dog has kidney failure- when do you let go? When do you stop trying?

I went through two of my cats having kidney failure - it was 4 years in a row between them. I knew when it was time.

It's very difficult Artos, but no one knows Trax better than you. I agree with Peggy that your head will tell you but your heart will fight you. You have to make the decision based on Trax and only Trax. If he is just living day to day to get injections and not eat, you need to ask if this is the life he should lead. He is your boy and no one has the right to judge you by any decision you make. You must make the best decision for him.

We'll be here for you no matter what.

Deb

[CorgiMum]

We'll be here for you no matter what.
Deb

{{{{{Artos}}}}}

I have not yet had to make such a decision for a beloved companion, but I know this is very hard for you.

[corgiland]

Oh Artos........you have had such a bad time of it lately.....continued prayers go your way for Trax.............

"Corgiland"
Beverly

[bunnybutts]

Artos,

I've been out of town and just read this thread.......... I am so sorry to hear how bad Trax health has become (((((((hugs for you both))))))))) my thoughts and prayers are with you and Trax.

[ZdogZ]

Artos ~ How did the check-up go? Still sending healing vibes to Trax.

[MrsGrace]

Artos... healing healthy peaceful vibes and prayers sent your way. I'm sorry this is so hard. We have all been there at some point and while that isn't much comfort, know that we're sending all our thoughts and love you & Trax's way.

+WUBCLUB+ {{{{{ Artos & Trax }}}}} +WUBCLUB+

[Artos]

Thanks all.

Dr Ly wasnt in town- the young vet assigned was supposed to give Trax a booster jab for his tick fever. She couldnt say if there's any water retention in the stomach (Trax is 18 plus kg. Was 17 kg plus two weeks ago)and was afraid that giving diuretics might cause more problem to kidneys. She suggested ultrasound. But person ic of that will be in tomorrow not today. Told her that I would just bring Trax in on the 16th as planned (for the peritoneal dialysis tube to be put in) and then they can do the tests (eg blood test or whatever). Not before because I am really at breaking point. During the past two months, had crisis with dad's health a month ago, then Trax's tick fever, then Barn2's cheese-diahorrea/vomiting scare, then Trax's kidney issue...not to mention taking care of the office cat (with paw problems), some major work concerns, 2 car accidents in 3 hours on same day....Had enough.

Trax looked ok to her otherwise. Quite alert. No water in lungs. Just some old skin problems coming back ( so she said to take the old medicine). In case I am worried the drip has caused the retention- she says I can give a lower dosage daily or to do it once in two days.
(BTW, I jabbed myself with the needle today by accident. Was changing the needles. It was a new needle that jabbed me. Changed it before doing the drip. Was so nervous about jabbing Trax).

[ZdogZ]

Artos ~ You have been going through a lot! Still sending healing vibes your way.

[Artos]

Good part: Trax is
a. producing good poo
b. pee-ing
c. drinking water (not excessive)
d. alert for a 13 yr old but he is a bit blind and does look a bit confused when he cant see too well...to figure out that it's food that has been placed in front of him.
e. enjoys walkies once a day (or rather at night) for short distance
f. still can growl and bark at me and Barn2- occasional play fighting with Barn2 but not that frequent as before.
g. eats his food after some or much persuasion
h. doesnt seem to be in pain
i. has and can climb up and down two flights of stairs daily. (I carry him upstairs nowadays so that he doesnt have to exert but sometimes he goes up there himself. He makes his way down daily).

Not to good part:
a. gums do look white. Forgot to ask vet to look and this novice vet today probably didnt look
b. stomach distended - might be water retention
c. less active than before. Prefers to lie there under the fan almost the whole day unless he is going out to pee or poo...
d. weight increased by l kg within 2 weeks.

Advice?

[Fluffypants]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Artos}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
I don't know what else to say, so am just sending you another big hug. +WUBCLUB+

[Artos]

Went to vet today. Trax’s gums were pale and his stomach distended. Was worried about water retention. He wasn’t interested in his food very much.

Vet did check on stomach. Found it was blood. Prognosis poor. I was prepared to let him go because vet said bleeding could be cancer inside of him. With his kidney problem looking, cancer situation (he does have a lump on his chest which we had to KIV checking because we had to take care of his tick fever and kidney problems first)…and him being 13 years old with skin problems (fur looking good now but skin problems barely kept at bay with medication- some of which were steroids)….it didn’t look too good a future for him. Rather than let him suffer- I told the vet I was ready to say goodbye.

My dad and I said good bye and I held him while vet (Dr Pearson) put in a catheter, then injected valium to calm him before the final syringe. His body reacted to valium- ie he started breathing very heavily. Vet told me that the choice to let him go at this point was a good one because normally, the dog would not react so strongly to valium unless something inside wasn’t able to take it any more. The time was right.

Trax left us around 11.45am. I committed him into the Lord’s hands. I will see him again in His hands along with my other dogs.

The pain never lessens even when I know it’s the right thing and the right time for him to go. He was my son.

When Trax came- he was second fiddle to Twerp, my girl corgi. I meant he was adopted to be her companion. He was a wild one, bullying her, up to no good. Hence the name Trax the Samseng (Hokkien for Gangster). Very vocal, very rough. After Twerp grew up, she was able to fight him back. But she was never the fighter he wished her to be. After Twerp died, we got Barnabas Ju-Ern. As companion for Trax. We saw Trax in a role we never expected him to play- a very good elder brother and mentor. He was very gentle but firm with Barn2. Trained him, guided him. Barn2 was everything Trax wanted in Twerp but couldn’t get her to be- a companion in play and fighting. Trax enjoyed Barn2.
Now that Barn has grown up- Trax became the god-father of all other dogs…he would look on kindly, interfere and scold only when other dogs misbehave. Gone was his indiscriminate aggressiveness towards other dogs (except for Marky). Now Barn2 has taken on his trait! His last outing that was an enjoyable one was the National Dog Walk last Sunday 5th August. (Photo by Raptor here). Will always remember him as Trax my son, the Samseng, the Godfather, the Dogfather….the loud but quietly affectionate boy.
Go with God, my son. Go with God.

[corgiland]

Oh Artos......I am so very very sorry about Trax. God Bless Trax and God Bless You..........he is in God's hands now.....

You did all that you could do for him....but it is so so very hard to let them go.....I feel for you so much....

Wish you were nearer so I could hug you...

I sit here with tears......

You are in my thoughts and prayers....

"Corgiland"
Beverly

[Artos]

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h98/corgyn/traxfinal.jpg

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

I write through tears as well Artos, I have always felt a kinship with Trax because of something that he and Miss Gambler shared, the smile, the face, I really don't know, but he always reminded me of her. Trax is only gone from this Earth, not from your mind, or from ours, and since you have shared so many wonderful photos, and his story, with us, he will never ever be forgotten and that is so fitting a special Corgi. He will always be a beacon of light shining down on you, following you, looking over you, I have no doubt about that. No, he is not gone, if anything, his precense is stronger than ever. Much love sent to you from me and Miss G.

[Abbykat]

Artos - I am so sad for you. Sending lots of loving thoughts your way....... and thank you for sharing the lovely pictures taken just last Sunday of dear Trax.

[ZdogZ]

Artos ~ I am so very sorry! My heart breaks for you. Just know that you did the best for Trax. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

[bunnybutts]

oh Artos (((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))

Trax holds such a special place in your heart that I believe he will always be with you. There are no words that comfort in these times. He was such a special boy and I am sure he knew how much you and your father loved him... it showed in all your talks of Trax.

our prayers and love are with you

[Merlincorgi]

Oh Artos! So sorry to hear things couldn't improve, but you did the very best you could for Trax and we know he is happily frolicing at the Bridge for you now just waiting until the day you can meet up again. *hugs*

[ColColt]

Artos, my heart is in shambles after reading that. I did so like Trax and some of the crazy pictures I've see of him. Good Lord, it's not even noon here yet and I'm having a hard time typing this for the emotions felt. I have Bubba lying about five feet from me and as I read this, I turned and looked at him wondering if he could hear and feel the low restrained sobs coming from here as I read this terrible news.

I can only attempt to say to be strong and hold on to those memories and cherish every video and photo. I wish I could hold you and pat your back to tell you all is well now but in lieu of that, may you be assured the King of Glory has accepted him into his arms and Trax is now joined by many that have gone on before him. I'll be thinking of this tragedy today and wish for you peace in your heart, knowing you did all you could. Be assured also, that in my belief, this life isn't all there is and I maintain that blessed hope that some day when our time is near, we will see all our loved ones again...both human and animal. May the peace that only God can provide surround you and yours this day.

[Penutsma]

Oh Artos! So sorry to hear things couldn't improve, but you did the very best you could for Trax and we know he is happily frolicing at the Bridge for you now just waiting until the day you can meet up again. *hugs*

I agree with Cheryl. Having made the hardest decision you ever had to make and knowing it was the right thing doesn't make the pain any less. Know that you are in our prayers and that he has gone to a place with no pain and lots of play.

[Jespah]

Oh Artos - I am so sorry that Trax is gone. I'm having a good cry here too - I felt as if I knew him, from all your stories and wonderful photos. Thank you for sharing him with us, his joys, his suffering and his loss. We all know how difficult it is to lose our beloved pets and I can relate to your pain. Time is the only thing that will heal your heart -Barn2 will help as well.

I know that Trax is free from pain and is playing with all of our friends that have gone before us. I hope that when you are ready, and if you want, you will post a tribute to him in our Rainbow Bridge forum, so he will always be here with us.

He had a long and good life - you were a wonderful owner and care giver to him.

My deepest sympathies,

Deb

[Artos]

Thank you to all. Appreciated your kind words and prayers.

Its 11.16pm and I am having difficulty going to bed to sleep. Kept having flashbacks of him yesterday- the last walkie outside the house that I gave him last night, the last bath two days ago...the last experience of being carried upstairs (so that he doesnt have to climb the stairs)....the last trip to the vet...

No matter how well we treat them- there's always a tinge of regret that perhaps, what was given wasnt enough in depth, quality, intensity.

Didnt know I loved him so much.

I guess I love Marky with food and treats.
I love Barn with quality time/hugs.
I loved Trax with gifts and service.

Realised that he has almost all the toys in the house, several beds (one downstairs, 2 upstairs. Not to mention the use of my bed as well), the steps for him to climb onto the bed etc.

Before he turned vegetarian, all the rawhide (I have a few rawhide bones and balls still waiting to be chewed) stuff are his. Barn doesnt bother with them (nor the toys) and Marky likes throwing them around (rawhides) and dismantling the balls. No one else chews them like Trax. Vet used to say that he has extremely good teeth- like that of a young dog!

Barn seemed not to be very aware of Trax's absence ie he didnt seem to look for Trax but he is a bit 'sticky' tonight- trying to stay close to us. Every little sound from the neighbours- he would bark. I have just carried him (probably 20kg?!) from downstairs to upstairs so that he would stop fussing about the neighbours and go to sleep. He even barked at my dad who just went to the toilet. Kinda 'hyper alert' . Maybe he knows that he is the main dog on duty now- at least in the front of the house (Marky guards the back).

[ZdogZ]

Artos ~ Again, I am so very sorry for your loss of Trax. It is going to be hard for awhile. The pain never goes away, but it does lessen. You will be able to smile and laugh at your memories of Trax again. I hope you are able to get some sleep. Sending you love, hugs, and prayers from us.

[Artos]

The DogsForum page in Singapore put this up a few minutes ago. It was very sweet of them to do it. Am touched.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h98/corgyn/traxfinal2.jpg

2 TRAX"S BROTHER FOUND- ONLY TODAY.

The funny thing is that when I went to Dogster to put up a notice of Trax's departure, I realised I hadnt opened a message that was there since May. It was from someone who had a dog called Benji. She suspected that Benji could be Trax's brother. Looking at the photos- I think he might well be....
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/17433

[ZdogZ]

What a wonderful tribute that DFS did! Do you have the link to that?

[MrsGrace]

I am sitting here in tears as well. So so sorry Artos... hardest thing ever is to have to make that choice. Sending you big hugs, thoughts and prayers... so sorry for your loss.

[Jespah]

What a wonderful tribute that DFS did! Do you have the link to that?

This seems to be the url - but I am unable to open it, maybe others can.

www.dogsforum.sg

This will open now, but you have to be a member to leave your condolence there. Perhaps you could light a candle here for Trax:


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

(Thanks to Julie for this link in the Rainbow Bridge Forum.)

[dcole]

Oh Artos,

I too am in tears as I write this. You gave Trax a wonderful life and I thank you so much for sharing all of his great stories and pictures with us. Know that you will see him again at the Bridge someday.

{{{Hugs}}}

[mtoy]

Artos, I am so sorry. I returned last night from traveling and checked in on Trax right away to see your post asking for advice last night...and now this. My heart goes out to you.

{{{{{Artos}}}}}

[CorgiMum]

{{{{{{Artos}}}}}} I am so very sorry that you have lost Trax, you gave him the final gift of kindness, you did all that you could.

Play well at the Bridge Trax.

[manymuddypaws]

Artos I am so sorry to hear of the difficult decision you have had to make. We will all miss hearing stories and silly pictures of Trax, he was a great dog and you and your family did everything you could for him. My thoughts are with you.

[MVons]

Artos, I'm crying my eyes out. You are such a good mom to eliminate suffering for Trax. He is probably saying "Thanks mom" and romping around at the bridge with Pepper.

I'm glad you have Barn and Marty. Barn is sensing a change and sticky to be there for you. Happy that Barn isn't missing Trax. It is funny how some mourn and others seem to appear that they care less. For Barn's health, glad he chose the later.

This week will be the hardest as the memories flood in your mind, and we are here for you. Make a post on the bridge area and add to it as the memories fill your mind and you need to record and allow room for more.

[Artos]

Thanks folks.

How can I help Barn2?
He does act a bit lost without Trax. I got him out last night to the porch to do his wee2. He walked to the gate and laid down, as if waiting for his brother. He also walked around my car esp. the back space area. I dont know if its just him trying to get a ride (he usually jumps up there- at the back of the car) or whether he was smelling Trax (who was there. I havent cleaned the car yet).

Should I get a wife for him? Been wanting to get one but couldnt find a black headed tri girl (very rare) who is very assertive and can put him in his place (!)

Should I get a brother for him?

It might not be soon- we are all still grieving for Trax. No one can replace him. But at some point, we would want another corgi to keep Barn2 company.

Even when Trax was around, we arranged for permission from the Agri-Vet authority to have a 4th dog in the house. All Singapore households can have max. of 3 dogs (if they are on pte or landed property). To keep a 4th one, we have to get special permission and to pay a lot more money for a licence.
We never got around to get the extra dog....A lot was happening in the past three months.

Advice?

[Jespah]

I went through a similar situation last summer - almost the exact same time -when Riley died and Rupert was an only dog. I was advised by the vet that Rupert would probably grieve for at least two weeks. I was to make sure his routine was as normal as possible and spend quality time with him. He did grieve for 2 weeks, but then he went into a depression and I got a new dog, Jemma much sooner than I wanted for me. It was only 4 weeks after Riley died. I only did this as Rupert would not do anything - only eat. He was becoming more insular daily and he wouldn't even look at me when I called his name.

I think you should give Barn2 at least two weeks and see how he's doing. Let him come to the realization that Trax is gone and give him the opportunity to grieve first then see how you are all feeling.

Deb

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

I agree with Deb, and the two weeks are for you also. You need that, and more, before making any such decision. But like Deb, you may be forced to make one for Barn's sake. Just still allow yourelf the time to be picky, I don't know what the dog market is like over there, but you want to end up with a great healthy dog, not just the first one you can find if Barn starts to get sick, so you may need to at least start LOOKING at dogs and breeders now. It appears that you have a big circle of Corgi loving friends so you will probably be able to get a great reference. Just end up with a smart healthy choice, you deserve it!!!

[Penutsma]

When Jazzie died, I was worried about Peanut for quite a while. He didn't want to go out to poo or pee. As soon as he was out, he wanted back in. I think he was always looking for her. This happened on Mother's Day 2006. After about 2-3 weeks he started to loose his hair. The vet told me that he was suffering from male pattern baldness. Little did he know! In July of that year we moved to Mississippi to live with Cheryl's sister. Within a few weeks of being there with Princess, and then Sampson, his hair started growing back in. I am so thankful that we moved there and he came out of his depression as I was in no condition to get another dog until I fell in love with Delilah. (now I have 3!)

[ColColt]

Artos-I have just the girl for you!! Unfortunately she's a RHT and lives in KY but a little fireball. She's Bubba's sister Iris and smaller, as you can tell.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x220/ColColt/At%20the%20House/Copyof100_0403.jpg

I've wondered about Bubba feeling somewhat like Barn2-being without all the family he's been use to. Maybe next Saturday when he has his birthday party and he gets to meet Chip and Dale, I'll know more as I watch him interact with them as to whether he needs a friend or not.

[Artos]

Thanks. What's RHT, Colcolt? She looks cute. Fireball- thats what he needs! Not a demure one for him. He needs a fighter.

CORGI SITUATION IN SINGAPORE
I think we have about maximum of 50 corgis in Singapore. In our forum, we found about 30. So 20 is my estimate for all the unlisted ones. Singapore Kennel Club has no corgi breeders. Almost all corgis are bought from petshops who get their pups from Australia. Corgis are not allowed in govt built apartments where 80 per cent of the population lives. (I live with my father in a landed property- so we can keep corgis legally). So the pet shops don't bring in many corgis. Perhaps one once in a few months maximum in 5 per cent of the shops....

Most of the corgis here are male. Very few females. Almost all are sable/red and white. We wanted a female even before Barn2 came. But he came as a very engaging male pup- so we ended up with him. My dad is convinced (and I am so too) that female dogs are smarter and we have more fun with them playing mind games against us. Male ones are quite predictable and straightforward in their moves.Some time ago I saw a tri but she was such a quiet girl - we didnt think she would survive a (then ) household of the two rough corgi boys.

If we import corgis- they will have to be from Australia, NZ and UK. No quarantine required.
Breeders there (in Australia and NZ) are not keen to send their pups to Singapore lest we eat corgis (!!!! I think they think we are in China or Korea....We dont eat dogs in Singapore.) Those who sell to pet shops are (we suspect) not the better breeders. UK breeders seem to favor the sable/red/whites. Not tris.

Here's what Barn2 looked like last night:
His side of the bed is on the right. He kinda 'migrated' until his head dropped onto MY side of the bed.
I was working late so he slept first.




http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h98/corgyn/removecc.jpg

[taflar]

How can I help Barn2?
He does act a bit lost without Trax. I got him out last night to the porch to do his wee2. He walked to the gate and laid down, as if waiting for his brother. He also walked around my car esp. the back space area. I dont know if its just him trying to get a ride (he usually jumps up there- at the back of the car) or whether he was smelling Trax (who was there. I havent cleaned the car yet).

IMO, he's reacting to your mood more than anything. I've found that dogs for the most part take what life hands them and make the best of it.

No, he doesn't know what happened to Trax. But he knows that Trax was ill and is now gone, and he knows you're sad.

Should I get a wife for him? Been wanting to get one but couldnt find a black headed tri girl (very rare) who is very assertive and can put him in his place (!)

NO, IMO, he doesn't need a "wife". Are you saying you want to start breeding corgis? He will adjust, as others have told you give yourself and him some time. I think you'll find that as you heal with your grief so will he.

Should I get a brother for him?

IMO, I don't think you should do anything just yet. It's too soon. And he doesn't need a brother either. You said he fought with Trax, and well, brining in another male IMO, is asking for trouble.

It might not be soon- we are all still grieving for Trax. No one can replace him. But at some point, we would want another corgi to keep Barn2 company.

Having been there, done that, and found out it wasn't the best idea, I can only say that I have learned that dogs do not *need* another dog for company or a companion. They are usually very happy with thier people as their pack.

IMO, you should never get another dog unless it's YOU (and your family, if that applies) that really wants another dog. And IF you can accept that they might not like each other. And IF you are prepared to do what it takes to keep them seperated if need be. Or give one up if it comes down to that.

Anyway, my advice is to take the time you need and grieve for Trax and let your heart heal. Barn will be just fine and probably sooner than you are.

Peggy

[taflar]

Thanks. What's RHT, Colcolt?

RHT means Red Headed Tri.

My dad is convinced (and I am so too) that female dogs are smarter and we have more fun with them playing mind games against us. Male ones are quite predictable and straightforward in their moves.

There is no difference in the intelligence of male and female corgis. Both are smart, very smart. The difference is the males are a bit more willing to please. The females are a bit more independent.

If we import corgis- they will have to be from Australia, NZ and UK. No quarantine required.

IMO, that would be better than buying one from a petstore. Petstore puppies are from puppy mills and are seperted too soon from their mothers and littermates.

Peggy

[ColColt]

Artos-I didn't see your last post until this morning. We go to bed erly on Sun-Wednesday because of work. Peggy answered your question about what a RHT was and you mentioned most Corgis where you are seem to be sable or R/W. I use to favor the R/W until Bubba and now, it doesn't matter to me the color-only the health and temperament.

BTW-Glad to hear ya'll don't eat Corgis-most of them are rotten anyway
:LAUGH:

[Fluffypants]

I am so very sorry Artos. It must have been so hard to let him go, but you clearly did the right thing for him.

[Artos]

Appreciate you all.
Thanks Peggy.
Haha Colcolt re the taste of corgis. Funny.....

COLOR OF CORGIS
We opted for a Tri because our previous girl was a sable/white. We couldnt get a 'duplicate' of her. She was unique. Hence Barn2 (well, we wanted a girl before he came along...!) 's a tri. Yes, we want one more corgi if not two more. Yes- they will have to be tris too because Trax was red/white...and he cant be duplicated either. So for this generation of corgis anyway- they'd have to be tris.

I have always liked black headed tris. But have seen only three adult ones. Two were imported from USA. Barn started as a BHT and ended up as a RHT. Would love to get a BHT from Australia or NZ or UK. Not sure where to look.

WASHING UP
Am now washing up (and spraying anti tick spray on) all of Trax's beds. He had three(!) Can still remember him that morning when we took him to the vet. Before we left, he went to one of the beds and laid down. Not usual. When he did that in the past, he was down with tick fever and was not feeling great. It was a signal to me that he was feeling worse than he looked. Really felt the pain when I washed that bed.

MEDICAL LEAVE
Am on medical leave tonight and tomorrow. Saw doc (almost said 'vet') late this afternoon because I had very itchy rashes on me for a few days. I had grabbed an old T shirt that had been washed but left lying somewhere for months..., ironed it and worn it last week- to take Trax to see the vet. Something on it must have caused the allergic reaction. Hot water and soap made the itching worse. Doc gave me an antihistermine to force me to sleep (and possibly deal with the restlessness and deep sadness that came upon me like a heavy cloud today). Will be taking the medicine soon....after washing up the last of Trax's beds.

[Fluffypants]

I hope you get some pleasant sleep Artos. Sorry about your itchies.

[dcole]

BTW-Glad to hear ya'll don't eat Corgis-most of them are rotten anyway
:LAUGH:

As in "spoiled rotten" David? Well just whose fault is that??!! :LAUGH:

Take care of yourself Artos, and get some rest. +WUBCLUB+

[corgiland]

Take care, Artos...........you have had so much to deal with....hope that the itchiness goes away and that you can have some peaceful sleep.


"Corgiland"
Beverly

[taflar]

COLOR OF CORGIS
We opted for a Tri because our previous girl was a sable/white. We couldnt get a 'duplicate' of her. She was unique. Hence Barn2 (well, we wanted a girl before he came along...!) 's a tri. Yes, we want one more corgi if not two more. Yes- they will have to be tris too because Trax was red/white...and he cant be duplicated either. So for this generation of corgis anyway- they'd have to be tris.

I understand about them being unique, but please don't pass on a dog because of it's color. They can have different markings and that way the won't look like the one you lost.

I have always liked black headed tris. But have seen only three adult ones. Two were imported from USA. Barn started as a BHT and ended up as a RHT. Would love to get a BHT from Australia or NZ or UK. Not sure where to look.

All tris start out being mostly black. By the time they are 6 weeks old those that will be red headed have lost or will beging to lose the black around the eyes. Then the black on top of the head.

Peggy

[MVons]

CORGI SITUATION IN SINGAPORE Corgis are not allowed in govt built apartments where 80 per cent of the population lives. (I live with my father in a landed property- so we can keep corgis legally). Are any dogs allowed in the apartments? Just wondered why corgis are excluded because in the US they can be recommended as apartment dogs because they frap on their own inside.

[Artos]

MVons:
.....any dogs allowed in the apartments? Just wondered why corgis are excluded because in the US they can be recommended as apartment dogs because they frap on their own inside.
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The Housing and Development Board (HDB) builds and runs all the govt sponsored apartments in Singapore. 80 per cent of the population lives in these. Although most people OWN these apartments (ie they buy them from the HDB) they have to abide by a lot of rules...eg the dog rule. (One day- remind me to tell you re the race-based sale rulings too...Unique to Singapore I think...)

Unless the HDB apts are privatized, people living in HDB apartments are allowed only l dog of a specific size (corgis are not in the approved breeds list). This is because some people in Singapore are fearful of dogs, dont like dogs, some religions have problems with dog saliva (ie they have to do ritual cleansing etc if the saliva of the dog touches them)...etc. So to keep the common peace in a the multi religious and multi racial context - the HDB has such rulings.
No cats are allowed either.

(Of course people living in private apartments- eg condos which cost an arm and a leg- can have 3 dogs max....just like people living in landed properties).

So you can imagine the problem of trying to rehome strays, cats etc.
Our SPCA does culling of 90 per cent of all animals surrendered to them.
Sick.

We are now trying to ask HDB to rethink the ruling...but unlike in the States where petitions, demos, lobbies (ie confrontations) work...here- these methods will be counterproductive. (Demos are illegal anyway).

We have to find a win-win situation where a lot of negotiations are made behind the scenes by concerned parties...so that if and when the HDB announces any changes- they will come out smelling good (they cannot lose face). Not easy because we dont know which invisible hand is controlling the policies re dogs and cats. We believe it is higher than those pushing pens in the govt depts including the HDB.
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Hey folks- there are NO CORGIS ON SALE IN SINGAPORE at present!!!( I am going a bit crazy here- maybe its the grief. Looking around for one to adopt and there are none. Only source for corgis in Singapore are the pet shops because there are no breeders here....). URRRGH!!!

[taflar]

Hey folks- there are NO CORGIS ON SALE IN SINGAPORE at present!!!( I am going a bit crazy here- maybe its the grief. Looking around for one to adopt and there are none. Only source for corgis in Singapore are the pet shops because there are no breeders here....). URRRGH!!!

You know, I know how you feel, I've been there. But I think you need to heal yourself inside and maybe give Barn some little extra attention right now.

Don't worry so much about finding another corgi right now. Relax and heal and when the time is right one will come along.

Peggy

[Artos]

A few minutes ago, Barn2 came and dropped something in front of me. It was Trax's favourite squeaky toy. He didnt play with it even when I squeaked it....but he looked at me with doleful eyes. I think he's trying to tell me something. He misses Trax. I gave him a hug. He has since taken the toy out to the hall and is lying there with the toy next to him. He looked so forlorn and sad. My heart breaks for him. How can I help him?

We have given him extra hugs, food (my dad's style. The last I looked, Barn2 doesnt have a waist. He's getting kinda rounded in the middle. Am forbidding my dad from giving him big meals), play...etc..but he seems to have lost his 'puppyish' fun drive. I dont know what to do....

Help!

[ColColt]

Artos-I'm not one to be able to offer any substantial advice on what to do but, I do know this. I didn't even think of another dog after Katie died. I only wanted solace and peace from the heartbreak as I had never experienced such turmoil in my soul like that. I cried daily...sometimes I would go somewhere at work and cry and I'm 61 years old. I loved her as I know you do Trax and I feel what you are feeling as it brings it all back to me. You gave him a marvelous, loving and caring lifestyle that so many will never experience. I never met you or Trax but if I can be completely transparent, I cried when I read of his departure to the Bridge and that's the truth.

Barn2 will be over this much sooner than you will. I've seen dogs grieve before and it does take them a while to heal. I don't know that I wouldn't take up reminders of Trax soon as it's to me, like a constant reminder to him. He's hurting inside now but, from all I understand, they get over this and he'll be ok after a short while of grieving...give him a bit of time and make your decisions accordingly. I wish peace for you and for Barn2 and live in hopes you both will again find joy even though now it's very difficult. It was for me for quite a few months after Katie and even though early on, I didn't want to have another dog, I just wanted peace within and wanted the hurt to stop. I found it never will entirely but, we must go on and share that love with the ones we do have and cherish every moment with them.

[MissGambler's+Mojo'sMommy]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you getting another dog if done for all the right reasons and if done smartly(ie from a decent source). I think I know you somewhat from your posts and know that you will not be truly happy until you get another Corgi, that's just you, and nothing wrong with that. And it does sound as if Barn is sad, he may love having a puppy to play with. Also, don't feed Barn out of guilt, to try an make him feel better. He may be so lethargic because of extra treats and meals. Think hard, take some deep breaths and clear the mind of all that's happened, then make a smart choice for your household. The members on here who have tried to steer you away from getting another right now are only looking out for you, but time is not going to heal your wounds, you're just one of those people(like me) who is a true feeler, and goes through life feeling way too much.

[Artos]

Thank you David. Appreciated your sharing and empathy.

I felt like that when my other dogs died and didnt get another dog until a few months had passed....ie when we couldnt stand not having another dog in the house anymore....

This time it is different.
It isnt so much me or my dad.
Its Barn2.

His reactions are not like my other bereaved dogs. Those got over it within a week or so. Barn2's grief is more pronounced. Hence the 'push' to get another before he 'settles in' to being the solo dog and not be able to adapt to another dog (he's already quite unsociable in dogdom. Great with people).

Like you- I never quite got over the loss of my dogs. My examiners had a great laugh about my PhD dissertation because the Dedication page was not only to three of my human mentors but to all the dogs (by name) and to two guinea pigs (by name) that I had throughout my life. Even when the dissertation was published as a book- the Dedication page remained. Its one way that I want to honor the memory of my fur sons and daughters. The first dog I bought with my own money (when I started work)- was a German Shepherd pup named Duchess. Bought it as a birthday gift for my dad. Cost me my whole month's salary. This was in 1981. Duchess died (I had stupidly believed my dad's advice that dogs dont need to get their shots. Duchess died before she was a year old. She had parvovirus.) that year- and to this day, when I hear the song 'Love you more than I can say'....I would tear. I remember her.

I guess my decision to get a tri girl after Trax's passing is because I want to get someone different looking from Trax. Its my way of honoring his memory- he cant be replaced...so whoever comes, isnt a replacement. Its a new furkid...possibly a sister to Barn2.

Thanks MGMM. I am a borderline T (thinker) in the Myers Briggs Personality test......very true when it comes to people and work.(In actuality- using the Enneagram personality typing- I am a gut person, not head nor heart).... But my F (feeling) function (back to the MBTI typology)usually comes out stronger where dogs are concerned....

[breezy]

I'm just now seeing this and I wanted to express my sorrow for you through all this. I just went through this a month ago myself, and it's been hard, but I know too that it was the right thing. Praying for you all during this time.

[Milosmom]

Artos, I'm so sorry for your loss of Trax. Thank you for posting the pics, it made me cry, such a handsome little corgi. The sense of loss and emptyness is so strong, i'm sure your other little guy is picking up on your emotions. Animals are so sensitive to our emotions. I understand your need to get another corgi. You can never replace Trax but the joy and fun of a puppy is pretty therapeutic. I wish you all the best.

[ColColt]

Artos-My parents were much like your Dad. They never had inside dogs and some of those poor creatures literally didn't have enough sense to come in out of the rain. They had "dog houses" but would just stand there while it rained. The were seldom given dog food of any type but, table scraps primarily. A for shots, I think the only ones they were given were for rabies. Some preceeding generations just didn't believe in a lot of the things we do today...no wonder as they weren't taught any better either.

I only wish the best for you and for Barn2 and hope he gets better with a bit of time. They never leave our heart as you know but, I'm thankful for memory as that's something time cannot erase.

[jcj528]

Artos:

I'm so sorry that Trax has gone on to the Rainbow Bridge. You know that he is there messing around with Riley and Leisl and Katie and Mandy, right. He will wait patiently for you and in all due time you two will be united. You did the right thing freeing him from pain.

About getting a puppy: I have done it both ways when my Old English Sheepdog passed, I waited almost a year to get another dog. But I remember that year as one of the loneliest, most unproductive years of my life. So that when Leisl's time was coming, I looked for, found and got Zack before she passed. I don't know that I felt Leisl's passing any less, but at least I wasn't alone.

You will do what you think best for you and then make it the best for you! I have every confidence in you.

I will light a candle for Trax when I get home from work tonight.

[LaRositaMonita]

Artos...between vacation and getting ready to start the new school I fell out of the loop on this thread, and I am SO SORRY that I did. Mac and Colin and I offer our most sincere condolences to you, and to Marky, and to Barn2. Trax was a very, very special Corgi. He can never be replaced, but I'm sure that soon your heart will guide you to finding another wonderful dog at just the right time. In the meantime, know that all of the vibes at this forum are pulling for you.

[Artos]

Thanks, all.....

Am trying to sort out Marky and Barn's relationship now. (Marky is our 6 year old rescued 'hit and run' mutt). With current renovations in the house (probably take a week:strangers walking in and out and Marky's back part of the house closed up until reno is over), and the different confinement locations for the dogs (one in bathroom during the day, the other in my room...)- both are a bit unsettled. Growling at each other across the steel doors. (see other thread).